Lenny Conundrum Tips & Tricks

Welcome to Lenny Conundrum Tips and Tricks! It is against the rules to share the answer to the Lenny Conundrum or to give any hints. If that's what you're looking for, then you're out of luck, and you should probably stop before TNT freezes you. What this page does have, however, is a breakdown of the different types of conundrums, and handy suggestions on how to beat them. There's also a general help section with advice for preparing yourself before and during the mad dash to that shiny trophy and avatar.

I'm not going to waste your time on a long, drawn-out introduction, telling you what you can find in the other sections. It takes 3 seconds to look at another page, so go find out for yourself. It's more fun that way anyway. Thanks for visiting, and if you have any questions or comments about this page, or the LC in general, please don't hesitate to neomail me.

General Tips

All of the Conundrums are different - well, I say "all"... - but there are some things you can do to help yourself prepare for whatever the new LC throws at you. If you're trying to solve the LC fast enough to get the avatar or a trophy, then most of these tips will only be helpful if you do them before the LC comes out. If you're just trying to solve it to see if you can, then take your time and just go through the list one at a time.

Know if/when the new conundrum is coming out

This one should be a no-brainer, but I've spent hours upon hours refreshing the LC just to find out later that Breik took a break, or TNT is taking off that day, and I'll have to wait another week.

The Lenny Conundrum comes out every Wednesday at the same time as the news. This usually happens some time between 1:30 - 5:00 pm NST, mostly closer to 2:00 - 3:00, but there have been times when it was very very late. I'm completely addicted to the LC, so I start refreshing the page around 1:45, and I'll refresh every 5-20 seconds until I see the new one pop up. Refreshing on the LC page helps you get to the new puzzle a bit faster, but I'd also recommend having the news page up in a different window or tab to refresh every 10 minutes or so. If the news updates, but the LC doesn't, read through the news and see if maybe they're releasing it tomorrow, or just skipping the week.

Read the instructions twice

I like to go as fast as possible when submitting my answer, which usually means I just assume I know what the instructions say. Unfortunately, that has been my downfall probably 20+ times. TNT has been known to ask for a number as a word, or add a twist to an easy problem on the very last sentence. Be careful that you KNOW what you're answering, or you probably won't get it right, let alone in the top 250.

An old teacher of mine taught me the rule "skim, read, skim." for tests and I think it's a pretty common one, but if you don't know it, it goes like this: When the conundrum comes out (or when you're handed a test in school), skim the entire question, then read the first and last sentences, then skim the whole thing again. After that, you'll probably know what you're supposed to do.

Prepare for the conundrum like you would a test

A notebook, 2 pens, 3 sharp pencils, 2 erasers, a calculator, grid paper, and a snack. Also be sure to go to the bathroom before you start. If you're like me, you won't get out of your seat until you figure out the LC; if it's a tough one, you might be sitting there for a bit. It would also help to get rid of distractions like the TV or other people if you can. I listen to the radio quietly when I work, but some people need absolute silence. See what works best for you, and try to maintain or improve those conditions each week.

Learn common riddles and logic puzzles

There have been several popular riddles and logic puzzles used as conundrums over time. When you get some free time, maybe look for a book of riddles or a list on some website somewhere. It is a great way to pass some time, and the one you learn might just be the next conundrum.

Cultural references... cultural references everywhere!

TNT just loves their cultural references, don't they. From brushing off haters to doing the pony in an elevator, those wacky staff members are just as dorky and meme-driven as the rest of us, and it bleeds through into the sanctified halls of the LC occasionally (I still hold the answer to this one should be "Tha moon is very useful everyone", but I'm not one to hold a grudge... really...).

If you aren't a big fan of "Call me Maybe" or "Gangam Style", you should at least know how to find out about these quickly. Like the example above, some answers are the lyrics to songs, others might be dates or events. In any case one of the best techniques you can develop is finding out information quickly. Search engines and online encyclopedias are great places to start for broad searches.

The internet is your friend

This is really just a larger version of the last tip. There have been some problems that you'll almost definitely need to go off-site for, but there are other things you can do out there to help with the conundrums. Some websites have free-to-use, insanely impressive calculators that could find the square root of pipi, or you could use an anagram solver or an online decoder to see if there's a hidden meaning in the conundrum this week.

The internet is big and dangerous, and if you're too young to go on the neoboards, you should definitely have an adult help you; but there are loads of hidden gems out there for you to use, you just have to go and find them.

But what does it MEAN?

There are times... dark times, when TNT will be ambiguous with their wording, or not tell you how to properly format your answer (remember the 12:14:00 NST disaster? I do. *grumble grumble*) and when this happens, you have to decide what you're going to do.

TNT Almost always rewards you for simplicity. In this round, the answer stated was "He used the water from the pitcher.", meaning he poured the water in the hole and the bouncy ball floated up far enough for Simon to grab it. However, TNT understands that it would be next to impossible to accurately guess the correct way to format that question, and they were lenient with what they accepted, as the commonly are. I answered "water" for that round, and they still counted it as correct, because they knew what I meant. When in doubt, a simple answer is better then a precise answer (again... 12:14... but whatever, grudges are so not my thing...).

Take everything literally

In one of the toughest conundrums to date, there was a bit that said "the key is mysterious". It took 4 weeks for anyone to solve this, and after the second week, TNT started giving clues to try to nudge us in the right direction. In this puzzle, the word "Mysterious" really was the key, because the whole thing was a string of morse code hidden inside a cipher, which was hidden inside another cipher. The 7 lucky winners scored themselves over 500k np each for decoding that monster. You can see the explanation for the answer in the link.

The point of that example was to show you that the clues are sometimes right in front of your face. If people had figured out that they were supposed to use "mysterious" as a key, they would have been 2 weeks, and several steps ahead of everyone else.



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Math Problems

The Breakdown

This is the most common type of puzzle in the LC. Nearly half of all of the riddles contain at least some math. That shouldn't really be a surprise, though, since everything we do in life involves math and numbers. This is a broad topic, ranging from encoded math and crazy algebra, to physics problems, and sometimes a bit of straight-forward addition and subtraction.

Unfortunately for the younger LC wizards out there, a lot of the time the math isn't simple arithmetic. However, this doesn't mean you can't do it anyway. It doesn't hurt to learn something new (a fact that will become readily apparent the more you participate in the LC). In fact, I learned about binary arithmetic because of another game, and I used what I learned to help me solve the XOR problem. If you don't understand the math behind the problem, you can still give it a shot. It's not like you're going to lose your pets and items if you get the wrong answer.

Examples

Mentioned above: encoded math, crazy algebra, physics, addition and subtraction, the XOR problem.

Other examples: here, here, here, here, here, and here.

The Solution

For math problems, sadly, you'll have to do math. I'm sorry, but there's no way around it. See? The stuff you learn in math class does have a real-world application, albeit a very silly one. Calculators are wonderful tools, but you'd better learn how to use complex functions like sin, cos, log, ln, and e^. There's not much help I can give you here, since it's the easiest to prepare for but the hardest to apply the preparation to. I don't like saying this, but if you come across some math you don't know, you probably won't get a trophy. However, that doesn't stop you from getting the avatar, some np, and a sweet prize. Always press on, and go slowly if you don't know it. Simple mistakes are always the ones that mess us up in math. As a final note, I would suggest having more than one calculator out and ready; I have a $150 programmable graphing calculator, but it only displays 8 digits at max, which isn't enough for some of the higher-level problems However, the calculator on my computer, while not as feature-heavy as my pretty real calculator, was able to display the entire thing without a moment's delay. If you want to be even more prepared, or you don't have a calculator on hand, try finding one online_ there are some that you can even type questions into, like "what time is 9 hours after 4 o clock?" and it'll solve it.

Logic and Lateral Thinking

The Breakdown

Logic puzzles and lateral thinking problems aren't exactly the same, but they share many commonalities, and the advice I can give for them is pretty much identical. Both require quite a bit of brain power, but logic puzzles usually take more focus, where lateral thinking, or "out of the box", problems require more ingenuity and creativity.

For logic puzzles, TNT likes to make it look like you don't have enough information or that it will take hours to sift through all of the options to find the right one, but this is really just a trick. Every question (save a few of the guessing and cheating ones) has an answer, you just have to know how to get around the misinformation and presuppositions to find it.

One example of a good logic puzzle was round 116, where Edna wanted a 6-digit number whose digits added up to 43 and that fulfilled two of the three requirements, being a square number, a cube number, or under 500,000. The biggest limiting factors were that it was six digits and they added to 43. A bit of thought before diving in head-first saved hours of comparing lists of squares and cubes, and then endless "1+2+2+1+5+4, not 43, 1+2+2+1+5+5... not 43...". It also doesn't hurt that this particular problem has been used so many times, it's essentially the only result that comes up when you search for any part of the question in a search engine.

Lateral thinking problems are both my favorite, and my biggest weakness. These commonly feature strings of numbers or patterns, and typically have to guess at the meanings until you find something that makes any sense at all. Fortunately, most Lateral thinking problems have already been done, so there should be a similar problem out there for you to build upon.

Examples

Logic puzzles: round 116 (mentioned above), also here, here, and here

Lateral thinking problems: here, here, here, and here.

The Solution

Both of these types of riddles are typically relying on you to rush through or ignore some small bit of information. The way to beat them is to not miss anything. This means reading the question at least twice, probably more times. With questions like these, it's important to read the final question very carefully as well. In round 427 it asked if you can draw lines through the dots, not how many would it take. The correct answer was therefore yes. This was one of the few times I actually got it right.

Anagrams and Ciphers

The Breakdown

An early favorite in the LC, anagrams and ciphers occasionally pop up, and they make up a large enough portion of the overall conundrum count to deserve their own section. There's not much to say about these, except there are examples of them both on their own, and as just part of the conundrum. Sometimes, they'll even put two or three ciphers together with an anagram just to see what happens (at least, that's what it seems like.). If you didn't know, anagrams are typically strings of letters that have been jumbled up randomly and ciphers are strings of letters or words that have been jumbled up according to some set of rules. I'm not really a fan of these riddles, but about 10-15% of all LCs have one, so it's best to practice.

Examples

Anagrams: here, here, here, here, and here.

Ciphers: here, here, here, here, and here.

The Solution

You may have noticed in the examples, TNT is pretty good about telling you which is which, sort of. In the anagram problems, they usually mention unscrambling letters, or maybe they just say the word "anagram". When it's a cipher, you might see "code" or they just won't say anything. My biggest advice for you is that if you don't see "unscramble" or "anagram", treat it as a cipher first. Find a decoder online or make one out of two paper plates and some scissors. The most common kind of cipher used is a shift cipher, so that's where I'd start.

It's also pretty easy to insert misinformation into these types of puzzles. If you find yourself at a point where you think two answers are possible, record as much as you can about where you are right now. Start with the option that seems like less of a reach, and if you need to, you can come back to that point and try the other way.

Guessing and Chance

The Breakdown

Occasionally, TNT will get bored, or they won't have found a good puzzle to solve, or something will have come up. I'm just speculating, but whatever the reason, we get stuck with the absolute worst category of riddles: randomly guessing the correct answer given no direction or information whatsoever.

Sometimes, they really do give you exactly nothing to go on, like "how many people guessed this answer last week?" or "what was the 98th most popular answer 5 months ago?", or worse, round 148, where the answer could have been anything at all!

Examples

Round 148

Other examples: here, here, here, and here.

The Solution

The only advice I could think of for this type of conundrum is elimination. A good example of this one was the relatively recent "What's your favorite holiday?". Now, we don't know what the "right" answer is, but we can probably safely assume that "4" and "snowager" are not the right answers. It doesn't really help much, but that's about the only thing you can even try.

Thankfully, these make up a really small portion of the overall LC riddles, so just blindly guess something and thank Fyora, King Coltzan III, and even Hubrid Nox that there aren't more of these.

Neopets References

The Breakdown

Being a Neopets competition, it shouldn't really surprise you to find out that the overwhelming majority of conundrums reference some other aspect of neopets in some way. However, there's a group of riddles that takes it a few steps further and incorporates specific information about something on Neo into at least part of the answer. This is a category usually added to another to try to add some difficulty, but there have been a few conundrums that specifically deal with neopets references.

Examples

Only neopets reference

Added for difficulty

A few other examples: here, here, here, and here.

The Solution

The best advice I can give you for this type of conundrum is to know where everything is on the site. For a while, they went crazy with the TCG references, and they aren't shy about using any old article from the Neopedia. Make sure you know how to find out more about the information you're given. There are loads of sites like The Daily Neopets and Jellyneo that stockpile info and have databases full of stats on everything. Put their hard work to use for yourself, and you'll fly through this part of the LC.

Unfair Questions

The Breakdown

This category covers two sub-groups that I want to briefly cover, because although they are extremely few and far between, they exist and you should know about them.

The first group is comprised of trick questions. These are really uncommon and usually only done as sort of a joke. Most of the time, if you think hard about them and anticipate upcoming events, you'll be able to luck yourself into the right answer, but it's not certain until the answer is published.

The second group is much more frustrating, these are the times TNT either awarded the wrong answer thinking it was correct (rant on it's way, be patient.) or something went wrong with the script used to verify answers and hand out prizes, but they didn't bother correcting it, and let the wrong people win anyway. I want to reiterate that this has happened maybe 3 or 4 times that I know of in the past decade of LCs, so don't let this get you too down.

Examples

Trick Questions: here and here | Explanations

Wrong Answers: here and here | Explanations

The Solution

Unfortunately, there's nothing we can do about these. For trick questions, the best you can hope for is to read everything very carefully and see if there's a clue, like how the sound-measuring device from the first example wouldn't have measured anything because they were in space. If nothing like that pops out at you, or you're stuck with a conundrum like the second example, you can either wait for a while, and not get a trophy because enough people will have guessed correctly and filled up the top spots, or guess and risk not getting it right based on how TNT feels that week. Check the news and the calendar to see if there are any upcoming events that might change the answer to the LC.

When TNT gets the answer wrong, you can cry, get angry, go to the inevitable "The LC was wrong" board on the games chat, but it won't matter. When they get it wrong, or they make a mistake, they don't fix it. Instead they reply to tickets saying "sorry about our mistake, but it wouldn't be fair if we gave you a gift now" and never mention their goof in the news. The only thing you can do at the end is just get over it.

Trick Question Explanations

Back to Unfair Questions

Example 1: Round 60

Link again

This one was pretty easy, though I imagine many people were very upset about it. The sound-measuring device didn't register any sound because Zorlon and the evil fuzzle were in space, and there was no air for the sound to travel through to reach the device. This was the whole "in space, no one can hear you scream" thing.

Example 2: Round 105

Link again

If you weren't there, then you wouldn't know that this was a trick question. I only found out about it because there was a site I found with old LC answers and explanations (it hasn't been updated in a long time, though) and it said that during the week this conundrum came out, more items with the word "chocolate" were released, so by the end of the conundrum the answer was different.

This one is by no means an isolated event, and I think it would be a good idea to prepare for this type now. If the question asks something that has to do with the number of items, then I'd add 2-4 and guess in that range. If it asks for rarities or estimated values, then you'll just have to wait to see, since the range becomes gigantic.

Wrong Answer Explanations

Back to Unfair Questions

Example 1: Round 421

Link again

This is an example of when TNT simply awarded the wrong answer. I'm pretty sure it's because during their calculations, they rounded, which shifted the answer enough to round up instead of down. If you're willing to sit through a lengthy explanation, I can show you that it's wrong. Each image is shrunk to save space, drag them to the address bar, or right click and select "view image" to see the full size.

In this problem, we need to find how long it takes for the babaa to run out of food, so we start with how much area the babaa can reach.


We'll start by splitting it into easier pieces, two identical triangles on either side of a sector of a circle with a radius of 50.


Now let's focus on the triangles first, using the sine rule, we can calculate angle B, and since the angles of a triangle always add up to 180, we can subtract A and B from that to find C, and then use the sine rule again to find the length of side c.


With all of that info, it's easy to find the area, and there's a pretty easy formula to use for it, shown in the image to the left.


Now that we have the area of those triangles, we need to find the area of the sector. This one is pretty easy, since we just take the area of the full circle and multiply by the amount inside the shaded region. the area of the circle is easy, and the fraction inside the shaded region is equal to the interior angle (120-2(16.146)=87.708) divided by 360.


Now just add up 2(278.0896)+1913.49 = 2469.67 square yards of grass. If it takes 13 minutes to eat 1 square yard, then it'll take 13*2469.67 = 32105.7 minutes to eat all of the grass it can reach, which comes out to 22.2956 days, or, rounded to the nearest whole day, 22.


Example 2: Round 468

Link again

In this example, TNT does have the correct answer listed, but something happened with the script (a small bit of code that performs a minor action) that validates the answers and awards prizes. Though they posted that the correct answer was 12:14:00, the only answer that was actually rewarded was 12:14, not 12:14:00, 12:14 NST, or 12:14:00 NST. When confronted about it, TNT said nothing and then ignored the problem further. However, they did reference it, among other slip-ups, during the Y14 Neopies, under the category "Let Us Never Speak of This Again".

Extras

This page isn't for tips or tricks, rather it's a collection of links and little things that I thought were interesting, but didn't really deserve their own page.

Links

Lenny Conundrum | News Updates | TDN's LC Guide | Jellyneo's LC Guide

LCs I've answered correctly

Starting from #401, because I can't remember much past that: 401, 405, 406, 409, 410, 411, 413, 414, 415, 417, 419, 421 (uncredited, because TNT got it wrong), 422, 424, 425, 427, 428, 429, 454 (I took a long break from neo), 456, 457, 467 (took another hiatus), 468 (uncredited, because the script decided my answer "12:14:00" was not correct), 469, 471, 472, 474, 475

Total: 28, including 2 uncredited

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